Does Jade have no fans?

A "Mortal Kombat" game without anyone from Mortal Kombat is not a true Mortal Kombat game at all. It is flagrant false advertising.

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The series is not called "Scorpion, Sub Zero, Sonya, Cage, Raiden, Kano, Liu Kang, Jade, Kitana, Mileena, Cyrax, Jax, Sektor...." etc.
 
Arc System did the right thing. Instead of making a Guilty Gear with a whole new roster, they instead made a new franchise called BlazBlue.

If NRS wants an MK game with an entire new roster, they should do the same and call it something else.

But why are we discussing this? We know it won't happen. And it's not the right thread to discuss it anyways.
 
If MK is a barbecue, then those type of characters are the charcoal.

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Every single character other than the original cast, was a "new character" to the series at some point. Most of them became wildly popular. Do you see where I'm going with this?
 
Every single character other than the original cast, was a "new character" to the series at some point. Most of them became wildly popular. Do you see where I'm going with this?
New characters are the supporting cast of the established classics, not the other way around. Remember that SF3 I bring up? Capcom had the audacity to make Alex, the Hulk Hogan wannabe ROOKIE, its main character and forced their Franchise Characters Ryu and Ken to take a back seat. Absolutely disrespectful!

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Every single character other than the original cast, was a "new character" to the series at some point. Most of them became wildly popular. Do you see where I'm going with this?

I'm in favor of new chars, but I also want classic chars. We can find a middle ground, there's no need for extremes.

As Sum 41 says "There's much more than just black and white".
 
I'm in favor of new chars, but I also want classic chars. We can find a middle ground, there's no need for extremes.

As Sum 41 says "There's much more than just black and white".
You don't build around unproven rookies though, especially without an established classic character to associate with him/her. Jin Kazama made sense in Tekken 3 because of his ties to Heihachi and Kazuya. Exactly what ties did Alex have with Ryu and Ken in SF3 again?

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New characters are the supporting cast of the established classics, not the other way around. Remember that SF3 I bring up? Capcom had the audacity to make Alex, the Hulk Hogan wannabe ROOKIE, its main character and forced their Franchise Characters Ryu and Ken to take a back seat. Absolutely disrespectful!

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For someone who supposedly cares more about gameplay than story, you sure do push this argument a lot.

A new character is not necessarily a supporting character, unless he or she is placed in that role.

Just look at Star Trek. The series changes its entire cast of characters several times during its lifespan. Did it ever suffer because of it? Not really. There were some bad groups and some really popular ones that are even preferred over the original gang.

Look at the X-Men. Several different eras that focus on new characters. Did they fail? Some did, sure. Many of them did extremely well.

Look at the Zelda series. Almost every single game is focused on a new iteration of 'Link'. Saying he usually looks the same doesn't change the situation, either. So don't bother.

The Dragon Age series changes its cast of characters almost entirely with each game. And get this, a few characters from previous games end up being supporting characters in the latest chapter. Some reduced to only a cameo while most never even show up. Is that series on the decline? Nope. It is currently climbing its way back up after the mess that was DAII (which was criticized for reasons not including a whole new cast of characters).

Please stop trying to push this argument. It no longer applies to the world of gaming.
 
You don't build around unproven rookies though, especially without an established classic character to associate with him/her. Jin Kazama made sense in Tekken 3 because of his ties to Heihachi and Kazuya. Exactly what ties did Alex have with Ryu and Ken in SF3 again?

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I'm completely ignorant to Tekken and SF to be honest. Though I agree with you in this subject, you can't have MK without at least 10 recognisable characters in it.

If you make a game and throw 30 new faces in a roster, why call it Mortal Kombat? just name it Lethal Dispute and sell it as a new and different franchise but don't mess with MK that way.
 
I think as long as we have the originals (Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Liu Kang, Sonya, Johnny Cage, Kano, and Raiden.) its fine. But I like to see new faces that keep the series fresh and relevant.

If you have such a nostalgia boner, your copy of MK9 still (probably) works.
 
If you make a game and throw 30 new faces in a roster, why call it Mortal Kombat? just name it Lethal Dispute and sell it as a new and different franchise but don't mess with MK that way.

The series is called Mortal Kombat after the name of the tournament within the series. You do NOT need the already established characters to continue making it "Mortal Kombat".

An entirely new cast of characters within the world of MK, is still MK. So long as history continues on from the events of the previous games, it is still a Mortal Kombat game.

Lol I don't see why this is difficult for you guys.
 
I would not have a problem if there was an entirely new cast of characters for a future game. I really wouldn't. I don't think they would make a new series for it. I don't think it would change the series.

I kinda wish some would literally give a chance at something fresher if this really is to happen in the future. Like I am seroious when I say that I would be completely fine with a Sub-Zero no show and I'm a freaking die hard fan of his. So... Why can't others try and do that?
 
I would not have a problem if there was an entirely new cast of characters for a future game. I really wouldn't. I don't think they would make a new series for it. I don't think it would change the series.

I kinda wish some would literally give a chance at something fresher if this really is to happen in the future. Like I am seroious when I say that I would be completely fine with a Sub-Zero no show and I'm a freaking die hard fan of his. So... Why can't others try and do that?

Take away a child's favorite toy... What do they do?

Same idea.
 
I would not have a problem if there was an entirely new cast of characters for a future game. I really wouldn't. I don't think they would make a new series for it. I don't think it would change the series.

I kinda wish some would literally give a chance at something fresher if this really is to happen in the future. Like I am seroious when I say that I would be completely fine with a Sub-Zero no show and I'm a freaking die hard fan of his. So... Why can't others try and do that?
Because that's not what they pay to see. They pay to see the characters that define MK. This isn't Final Fantasy.

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If you know the game isn't going to contain original characters, you don't have to pay for sh**. Duh.
YOU know that a game carrying the branding of an established IP that contains ZERO iconic characters from that IP is counterfeit.

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The series is called Mortal Kombat after the name of the tournament within the series. You do NOT need the already established characters to continue making it "Mortal Kombat".

An entirely new cast of characters within the world of MK, is still MK. So long as history continues on from the events of the previous games, it is still a Mortal Kombat game.

Lol I don't see why this is difficult for you guys.

i think the problem MK been dealing with is due to the name.
its a double edge sword.

since they fight to the death, favorite kharacters most likely will get replaced but they can also
use this to their advantage to always have a good reason to introduce new fighters to the game.
 
I definitely prefered Jade over Kitana, but storyline wise i can see why she isn't coming back...finally someone who died isn't coming back. I do like how they still have her "essence" in the game...so to speak!
 
Arc System did the right thing. Instead of making a Guilty Gear with a whole new roster, they instead made a new franchise called BlazBlue.

If NRS wants an MK game with an entire new roster, they should do the same and call it something else.

But why are we discussing this? We know it won't happen. And it's not the right thread to discuss it anyways.

To be fair, the Guilty Gear IP was in a limbo for some time after Sammy merged with Sega. Blazblue was ASW's way to make a game similar to Guilty Gear when the publisher has not given its blessing. Guilty Gear has resurfaced in recent years because Arc System now owns the IP.
 
YOU know that a game carrying the branding of an established IP that contains ZERO iconic characters from that IP is counterfeit.

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Stop. Just stop. You don't know what you're talking about.

A new cast does not mean they need to give the series a new name or a spin off series. MKX is making a huge jump into the future. It only makes sense that the original crew is eventually reduced to just a few familiar faces before dying off as well.

I do believe Scorpion will forever be a part of the series. No doubt about it. But he is literally the only exception and that is because Ed Boon worships the character.

No one else is necessary, really. They can be done away with easily while still staying true to the MK title.
 
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