Mortal Kombat 1 General Discussion Media Thread
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Robot Rock
One of guys on TYM who's in close with the leakers says thats right. He said their monetization of the new mode is gonna piss a lot of people off
Commander
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Welp, good. Then I hope that they get a lot of flack for it (and rightfully so) just like they got a lot of flack for the Krypt originally in MK11 and the fucking absurd hurdles and monetized shit in that when it launched, too.
I hope that it gets torn to fucking shreds by EVERY. SINGLE. REVIEWER when the reviews come out for the game.
That god-awful fucking monetization shit has no place in this game.
Fuck that noise.
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Robot Rock
Nah they know how to work the system. They've been doing it since MKX.
In MKX when the game launched, there was a day 1 patch that halved the amount of Koins you earned. So reviewers had a great time with the game, but consumers were forced to either grind out koins or buy the Krypt Unlock
lariat
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Pretty much and until there are some new laws set into place that prevents that sort of thing. This trend will continue. It goes without saying that most early reviews can't be trusted anyway.
Misucra
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Ah. I see, I am late on that note. I had my own side drop me a package of info about the mode (Irony isn't lost on me. Was in the complete dark during MKX pre launch, when I cared, but now I couldn't care less and I have people drop info all the way from inner development). Didn't give me anything major, but just gave info about single player mode development. Apparently it was going though development hell, back and forth. Two monetization options were considered as primary candidates.
Limiting player's movement across the map, so you would need to refill resources through grind and another more likely one is locking certain checkpoints behind high costs, so you need to also grind for resources to proceed further or use Dragon Krystals to bypass areas "faster".
Now how the end result ended up I wasn't told, as the source left the company before the game was finished, but either way this is the direction you can expect the game to go. They were looking for ways to slow down the progression of the player, by hitting their movement.
The most important part, that I noted is the guy who shared this, emphasized that "FUN" is not the theme during the development. They develop the game modes around monetization system, rather then implementing monetization system later.
As for how trusted this source is, I was told about Reptile being a shapeshifter of some sort, two weeks before the trailer.
Just wanted to drop this, as apparently I STILL got something to share.
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@lariat Pretty much and until there are some new laws set into place that prevents that sort of thing. This trend will continue. It goes without saying that most early reviews can't be trusted anyway.
Don't bring government in this. I don't want GOVERNMENT of old fossils regulating gaming industry (which always ends up with even more restrictions), just because so called gamers have zero respect for themselves. This trend continues, because people reward this behavior by purchasing these games in the first place. Anyone who spends money on this game, has no right to complain about shitty monetization. The moment a person presses PURCHASE, their opinion on this matter is void.
The only way to hurt companies is through their wallets, but if people are not willing to do this and instead are going to buy the game, then they deserve this kind of treatment. Why show respect for people, who don't show respect for themselves?
I told so before. MK11 got rewarded with 15 millions copies for this behavior. So they have no reason to stop. They literally just look at the player base and laugh. They see people complain about these monetization systems, while the same people throw money at them.
"How dare you to make monetization like that... oh Premium Edition! Shiny! But... monetization is bad! SOMEONE ELSE DO SOMETHING! Government! Regulate these fools, for I have no self control!"
Limiting player's movement across the map, so you would need to refill resources through grind and another more likely one is locking certain checkpoints behind high costs, so you need to also grind for resources to proceed further or use Dragon Krystals to bypass areas "faster".
Now how the end result ended up I wasn't told, as the source left the company before the game was finished, but either way this is the direction you can expect the game to go. They were looking for ways to slow down the progression of the player, by hitting their movement.
The most important part, that I noted is the guy who shared this, emphasized that "FUN" is not the theme during the development. They develop the game modes around monetization system, rather then implementing monetization system later.
As for how trusted this source is, I was told about Reptile being a shapeshifter of some sort, two weeks before the trailer.
Just wanted to drop this, as apparently I STILL got something to share.
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@lariat Pretty much and until there are some new laws set into place that prevents that sort of thing. This trend will continue. It goes without saying that most early reviews can't be trusted anyway.
Don't bring government in this. I don't want GOVERNMENT of old fossils regulating gaming industry (which always ends up with even more restrictions), just because so called gamers have zero respect for themselves. This trend continues, because people reward this behavior by purchasing these games in the first place. Anyone who spends money on this game, has no right to complain about shitty monetization. The moment a person presses PURCHASE, their opinion on this matter is void.
The only way to hurt companies is through their wallets, but if people are not willing to do this and instead are going to buy the game, then they deserve this kind of treatment. Why show respect for people, who don't show respect for themselves?
I told so before. MK11 got rewarded with 15 millions copies for this behavior. So they have no reason to stop. They literally just look at the player base and laugh. They see people complain about these monetization systems, while the same people throw money at them.
"How dare you to make monetization like that... oh Premium Edition! Shiny! But... monetization is bad! SOMEONE ELSE DO SOMETHING! Government! Regulate these fools, for I have no self control!"
Commander
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Man, this sounds like utter horseshit, unfortunately.
With my luck this is also the only area where I'll be able to go to unlock things like skins and gear pieces for Kenshi, Reiko, Havik, Li Mei, Tanya, Ashrah, Nitara and kameo Sareena.
Never thought that I'd long for the return of the MK11 Krypt. Holy shit!
Misucra
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Well... that's what you can expect, when dealing with dipshits like that.
If this will make things any easier for you. At the time the guy was working there, said that the mode was still in early stages, so a lot of things could have changed. It also matches with previous leaker, who said that this game mode was very late in development and was in danger of being scrapped all together. But regardless, one thing is for certain, they have been looking for ways to fuck people over.
Also high possibility of Battle Pass like system. It was definitely put as an option, during development. Different people claimed that Kustomization is very likely not to be part of the game, so I doubt you guys will have any "gear". "Genshin Impact" was also used as example for some reason. Maybe related to Kameos.
Also for people that might bring up "But Boon said, that there will no Battle Pa..." Boon said a lot of things. Would be a first step towards gaining extra brain cells, if people stopped treating a person with a long history of constant lying, as a trustworthy source of information. He says what corpos tell him to say.
Also funny thing you bring up MK11 Krypt. So apparently the reason why Krypt was online, wasn't actually about "ensuring that people get the right items". That explanation never made sense, anyway. No, it was a test bed. It was online, so they could monitor player's activity. MK11 Krypt stats gave birth to MK Mobile Krypt. Meaning that all the suckers who played MK11 towers/krypt religiously, have given birth to that monstrosity.
If I understood correctly, INVASIONS mode was made alongside MK Mobile Krypt, so they might share similarities on how progression works in there. With INVASIONS mode just looking more fancy. So if you looked up MK Mobile Krypt right now, you might get an early glimpse of what you're getting for the so called SINGLE PLAYER content.
My thoughts about this entire thing?
After speaking with these people yesterday, my mentality about this entire situation has changed completely. Once I learned how much the so called GAMERS have influenced the creation of these things, how much those purchases influenced EVERYTHING, how many of the GOOD THINGS we LOST..
You know how many game modes. THE FUN ONES we lost, because management favored pure profit from their mobile style shops and grindy towers over fun? I was shown how many crazy ideas they had, but none of them made past the drawing board, CAUSE STATISTICS SAID:
PEOPLE FUNDED THIS OVERMONETIZED GARBAGE.
KNOWINGLY TOO.
Yeah. Everyone that buys this game or any similar garbage. YOU deserve this treatment. You deserve any garbage they throw in your face. Governments won't do shit, because corpos can just show the stats "You see, they like this. they LOVE this" and politicians get that nice fat cut anyway, from all the money corpos got from these addicted suckers. So "gamers" are funding corpos budget, so they can keep regulations away anyway.
Triple AAA isn't dead, cause corporations killed it. No. "Gamers" killed it. No self control, no self respect. They funded this shit and by doing that, they supported it. People got what they wanted.
Both sides deserve each other. No matter how much people will bitch about this, actions speak louder, than words. Your mouth can say "I hate this system", but your hands that click on the BUY button will say.
"Harder, daddy."
Corporations have grown themselves cute loyal consumers. I imagine they find it really cute, when they see their little pets bark at them, after licking their feet.
"GaMErS wIlL tAkE a STaND"... fuck all of that shit. Bunch of fucking whores. Show couple videos of gameplay, some characters that people wanted to see and that's it. Pants down, smiles on the faces and ready to take it. No pride, no nothing.
Baldur's Gate 3 reception won't change anything either, as it will be treated as an exception.
There won't be better games, there won't be better "customer friendly" practices. There will be no CREATIVITY or INSPIRATION. Because the players don't want them. Because the addicts, have already shown that they love this overmonetized shit and they will support this, by spending money on it. Regardless of what they "say".
And once you get too tired to be part of the grind, once you will leave the gaming as a broken soul, you will be just replaced by a younger "gamer", who will be ready to spend 100 dollars on a standard edition and additional 50 bucks, to get EARLY ACCESS.
There is no passion left. Just addiction.
And that's all I have to share.
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lariat
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Well there's always option two which is to let companies do whatever they want...no repercussions whatsoever. Hell might as well let Micosoft buy every game company and publisher. Who needs competition? Right? I'm not saying government will solve all of the gaming industry problems but when it's used effectively like when EA tried that whole loot boxes craze that landed them in hot water several years back. It does send a message. I do agree that people who spend big money to skip the grind are part of the problem but that doesn't apply to everyone who plays MK or any game. I just want a law that forces developers/publishers to be up front about any features or modes in game before release. Patching in or changing a games monetization for profit after the fact benefits no one but the publishers.
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Commander
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Definitely seems like gear and kustomization is going to be a thing in this game.....
Geras with different gear pieces
Also we know that kameo Sonya has an MK1 skin and an MK3 / UMK3 skin, so kameos could have more than 1 skin as well.
As for the MK11 Krypt and Towers, unfortunately that's how a lot of gear was unlocked in the last game, but since there's apparently not going to be a Krypt in this game and supposedly this Invasion mode will replace the Krypt, that's where they worry comes in.
Unlockable skins and / or gear is not the issue for me, as there does seem like there could be some evidence for both, but rather the "how" and "what" part of unlocking it is where the issue is at for me.
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Just saw the Krypt mode in mobile since I dropped out of MK Mobile about a few months prior to MK11 dropping.
Holy shit it looks so different from what I remember.
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Misucra
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Ok, so apparently thiny was wrong about that one. We can scratch that one out.
So, very likely some sort of Pass for skins/gear then. Though that requires commitment. NRS isn't known for that. Could be just another shop. Whatever.
Just saw the Krypt mode in mobile since I dropped out of MK Mobile about a few months prior to MK11 dropping.
Holy shit it looks so different from what I remember.
Yep. Everyone paid for that. That's where your money went.
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TheBionicWoman70's
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I don't see anybody discussing about bac736 (the new leaker) having access to a picture of the roster and his description was about Nitara.
FateUnknown (the real leaker) has stated that Nitara actually is not Asian. He also said that she has a headpiece, not a helmet. He seemed to indicate that there is one other big "surprise" in store for her.
In the Kombat Kast, Stephanie (Steve) said her favorite character still hasn’t been revealed. She said on X (formerly known as Twitter) that Sindel wasn't her favorite characters when Sindel was released to be DLC in 11. It could be Nitara.
The source said that Colin Moriarty said he got the information from someone who told him about the Jean-Claude Van Damme skin for Johnny Cage. And he told that Megan Fox and Travis Scott would be in MK1. There is a rumor that Megan Fox is face modeling/voice acting Nitara. FateUnknown says "the big surprise" with Nitara. Basically Megan Fox could be voicing and modeling Nitara like Ronda for Sonya. Maybe she could very well appear as a character skin.
FateUnknown (the real leaker) has stated that Nitara actually is not Asian. He also said that she has a headpiece, not a helmet. He seemed to indicate that there is one other big "surprise" in store for her.
In the Kombat Kast, Stephanie (Steve) said her favorite character still hasn’t been revealed. She said on X (formerly known as Twitter) that Sindel wasn't her favorite characters when Sindel was released to be DLC in 11. It could be Nitara.
The source said that Colin Moriarty said he got the information from someone who told him about the Jean-Claude Van Damme skin for Johnny Cage. And he told that Megan Fox and Travis Scott would be in MK1. There is a rumor that Megan Fox is face modeling/voice acting Nitara. FateUnknown says "the big surprise" with Nitara. Basically Megan Fox could be voicing and modeling Nitara like Ronda for Sonya. Maybe she could very well appear as a character skin.
Misucra
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Yeah... gaming industry is a lost cause.
This
Well there's always option two which is to let companies do whatever they want...no repercussions whatsoever. Hell might as well let Micosoft buy every game company and publisher. Who needs competition? Right?
and this...
but that doesn't apply to everyone who plays MK or any game.
in the same message. As certain dark lord dude has said.
"Ironic"
These companies can do whatever they want, because YOU BUY THEIR GAMES. It doesn't matter, if you are a money whale or not. What? You think those whales are the only ones, who hold this entire piece of shit greedy industry running?
15 million copies, buddy. YOU PAID them to do whatever they want.
"But, but, but government did something"
WHAT? What did they do? Made some speeches? Denounced the practice? Belgium banned lootboxes? OH NO. Belgium did it! Nooo. Executives are probably running scared now. What a painful lesson they learned! Devastating news!
Let me check how is EA sports games doing. You know the ones that have full on gambling.
So FIFA, made by EA, that has ULTIMATE TEAM mode, that essentially allows you to buys packs, that unlock random characters (DEFINITELY NOT LOOT BOXES), has made 1.62 billion dollars in the last fiscal year. EA has reported a very healthy growth.
NFL Madden, that is the same game, being rereleased with different number, is making hundreds of millions.
Or how about 2k23 made by 2k games? Oh they have full on gambling and packs too! 5 millions units just this one iteration. 43 million units sold in total.
Oh yes. The government did so MUCH. Oh wow.
You already allow companies to do whatever they want.
I mean look at you. You are making excuses by blaming some money whale, just to justify your spending on the game. "It wasn't me, it was them!"
And then suggest a GOVERNMENT. Something that has no knowledge in this matter, to add restrictions and regulations. I have yet to see one regulation done by government, that hasn't fucked everyone over. They always go overboard.
You don't want the companies to do whatever they want? Simple. Don't buy the game. But you won't. You and everyone else here will buy it.
You guys will buy this (or already bought it), then complain about monetization. Then continue doing that, until you're dead, retire from gaming or franchise is dead. And then you will blame someone else.
Yesterday's speech, was an eye opener.
Corpos are pieces of shit for what they do, but the dear consumers are the ones that ENABLE them to do that. You give them ammo and guns. You buy it for them. And so you deserve whatever they will throw at you.
You will see your favorite character have some cool cosmetic gear and you will spend time grinding for it. Or will buy some in game cash to get it instantly. That's it.
In the end, I am the biggest moron here, as I am writing here in the first place about this. I shared the info I got yesterday and shall practice what I preach. Don't like it? GTFO.
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lariat
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You boycotting a game isn't going to change anything. It might make you feel better about it but these franchises are way to big for that. I play MK for the gameplay and online competition only. I stopped caring about the single player stuff years ago and when WB starts a pay to win model there as well...I'm out. It's that simple. That's just how i feel though.
Commander
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While I DO care about the SP stuff mainly, essentially this.
Sucks that the unlockable skins and gear will probably be relegated to this trash mode, but that said, I've also never paid for in-game currency in any game with real money nor will I ever. I've also never purchased in-game cosmetics with any real money.
Getting post-launch DLC skins and characters are 1 thing, but if this Invasion mode is not pay to win and it gets to be too much of a pain in the ass to grind like the LMV in Injustice 2, then oh well, that'll just be a mode that I'll be skipping out on.
Xenon
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Megan Fox as Nitara... Ahahahaha!!!!!
Man, can't wait how NRS "makes it more realistic". Blowtorch, anvil and a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range will be involved.
The only thing that really seems to stand out are the stages. Not exactly mind blowing, but you can tell they've put effort into it.
Man, can't wait how NRS "makes it more realistic". Blowtorch, anvil and a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range will be involved.
The only thing that really seems to stand out are the stages. Not exactly mind blowing, but you can tell they've put effort into it.
Commander
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Possibly.
I also tried to stop it at about the 7 second mark and it appears that kameo Frost may have another skin & mask.
Maybe it was also just happening so fast that I couldn't tell.
